[Luna City Blues] – Expertiser, tell me I'm wrong!

• 1) Hobbyist. Engagerad, men inte superinsatt.
• 2) Yrkesmässig. Kunnig, kan göra jobbet på en professionell nivå.
• 3) Expert. Kan extremt mycket, har jobbat länge, är en sån som andra frågar om saker inom området.

Luna City Blues said:

Military
Weapons
● Determine ammo caliber from casings etc, identify a weapon's class and megacorp, know one or two decent weapon smiths.

●● Specific versions of firearms, can tell modifications on sight, do ballistics checks.

●●● Identify make and model, maybe even from sound alone. Determine what specific specialist made a weapon modification.

Technology
● Identify common mechanical problems, determine the function of commonly used mechanisms, read a blueprint.

●● Understand uncommon or complex mechanisms, detect modifications and determine their function.

●●● Master all known mechanical principles, determine the competence of the engineer who designed a machine, detect hidden modifications, find traps in blueprints.

Data analysis
● Do surface-level analysis of big datasets, identify what a dataset describes based on units of measurements and keywords, reading code that's not too complex.

●● Read code and determine the function of most of it, given time. Find bugs and malware. Analyze big datasets to find big anomalies and manipulations. Determine the type of encryption for a message, and what is required to read it.

●●● Find expertly-hidden anomalies in big datasets. Read complex code and find non-trivial traps and bugs. Use advanced decryption tools to decrypt messages without access to their key.

Military knowledge
● The basics of military structure and the hierarchies, branches and grades of most of the Big Five, at least surface-level. Identify someone's rank based on markings if it's a common one. Understand simple military strategies.

●● Easily identify someone's rank from their uniform and markings, and know what their responsibilities and abilities are. See whether someone has served, based on posture and reactions.

●●● Know the intricacies of all big five megacorps’ militaries, plus the Brotherhood and the Cartel. Yes, this includes the Doomtrooper program. Know or be able to find out who ordered a specific operation and on what (or at least whose) intelligence (unless very classified).

Vehicles
● Identify the make and model of most common cars/planes/ships, know what licenses are required to operate different vehicles.

●● Identify the model of most cars/planes/ships on sight, know their basic design history and relationship to other vehicles. Identify modifications, botched repairs and tamperings.

●●● Know about exotic vehicles, experiments and prototypes, odd one-offs and top secret specialized combat vehicles. Identify hidden hardware faults. Know what factory a vehicle was likely manufactured.

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Monokel said:

Dataanalys verkar handla mycket om kryptering och att hitta gömda anomalier. Normalt handlar det mer om att hitta (förhoppningsvis användbara) mönster i data, eller att göra förutsägelser utifrån data. Föreslår att du antingen lägger mer tyngd på de sakerna eller döper om fieldet.

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krank said:

• 1) Hobbyist. Engagerad, men inte superinsatt.
• 2) Yrkesmässig. Kunnig, kan göra jobbet på en professionell nivå.
• 3) Expert. Kan extremt mycket, har jobbat länge, är en sån som andra frågar om saker inom området

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Beastslayer said:

Iof ligger de kanske på ungefär samma nivå, men en hobbyist kan bli enormt skicklig inom sin hobby, så det klingar lite fel på det sättet.

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Leon said:

Håller med. För just Luna City vore det väl bra med något som låter lite mer "corporate":
Basic - Certified - Expert eller Basic - Advanced - Expert.

Något som låter som att det hör hemma på ett cv eller i en kurskatalog

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krank said:

Junior / Senior / Expert? =)

Jag vet inte, vi får se. Orden är ju ändå inte tänkta att användas in-game; när man spelar säger man siffrorna. Jag har aldrig riktigt gillat spel som namnger sina skalor och förväntar sig att folk ska kommunicera med namnen.

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Beastslayer said:

Och som sagt är hobbyist lite missvisade. Det finns hobbyister som är experter inom sina områden.
Så mitt förslag om att ändra till något annat står kvar.

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Leon said:

Håller med. För just Luna City vore det väl bra med något som låter lite mer "corporate":
Basic - Certified - Expert eller Basic - Advanced - Expert.

Något som låter som att det hör hemma på ett cv eller i en kurskatalog

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krank said:

Junior / Senior / Expert? =)

Jag vet inte, vi får se. Orden är ju ändå inte tänkta att användas in-game; när man spelar säger man siffrorna. Jag har aldrig riktigt gillat spel som namnger sina skalor och förväntar sig att folk ska kommunicera med namnen.

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Luna City Blues said:

Science
● Identify most physics calculations as such, given very little context. Know the orbits and inclinations of the larger bodies in the solar system and can read printouts from astronomical observations and calculations. Know and identify most common minerals, chemicals and compounds.

●● Analyze physics calculations to find anomalies and faked data. Know the solar system's mechanics well, including most moons and larger asteroids. Identify impurities in minerals and know where they're usually found. Do chemical analysis, given the right tools, and determine the makeup of compounds.

●●● Read and understand complex astronomical and physics calculations. Identify exotic materials and compounds. Know how the orbits of bodies in the solar system interact well enough to predict and identify anomalies.

Psychology
● Recognize lies from nervous liars, make surface-level assessments on mental stability, know at least the basics of the most common mental disorders and aberrations as well as disabilities. Know the largest psychiatric hospitals and mental asylums and roughly how they operate. Know basic group psychology; determine hierarchies and conflicts from communication and body language.

●● Know most current theories on the psyche. Identify signs of various disorders/aberrations/disabilities and know their most common treatments. Recognize lies from decently-competent liars. Know the intricacies of most mental health facilities.

●●● Recognize expertly-told lies. Identify hidden trauma, given enough information and time. Have a very good grasp on cutting-edge research and treatments. Read group psychology and determine stress points and how the group may be manipulated.

Medicine
● Diagnose common illnesses, know who to talk to at the local hospital, know the difference between different specialisations of medicine, know how most common disabilities are treated/mitigated.

●● Diagnose uncommon but well-researched illnesses. Know most medicines that are on the general market, their uses and common side effects. Gain access to medical records.

●●● Diagnose new diseases, bioweapons and other unknowns.

Forensics
● Determine most common/obvious causes of death. Collect and compare fingerprints. Make reasonable guesses where a shooter might have been standing, given bullet holes and angles. Match footprints.

●● Determine the type of weapon used based on indentations and jagged edges of the injuries. Make accurate determinations of the shooter's height and location based on ballistics. Determine rough sequence of events based on ballistics, blood spatter analysis and other clues.

●●● Narrow down time of death to a 6-hour span. Determine the cause of death even when someone's gone to great lengths to make it seem natural. Find and analyze the smallest slivers, shards and single threads of evidence.

Nature
● Know most common animals and their habits, plants and their uses and if they're edible. Can see if an animal is distressed or calm. Knows basic classifications, and can identify most uncommon plants/animals given time.

●● Can see if an animal has been trained, and if a plant has been manipulated or taken care of. Knows a lot of small tricks that help in wilderness survival and can determine whether someone knows their way around a jungle, forest or plains. Knows how to act around most animals in order to not agitate them. Knows which animals are currently in vogue among collectors.

●●● Knows most subspecies of plants and animals. Can analyze animal droppings, behavior and tracks to determine their history. Knows how to gain most animals’ trust. Knows which parts of animals are most valuable.

Humanities
● Have a decent overview of human history at least from Exodus onwards, know the basics of all the larger religions. Know basic sociology; some basic principles for how human societies operate.

●● Know the details of post-Exodus history and the details on the larger religions and many of their sects and inner conflicts. Identify religious iconography and tie it to the right sect. Analyze religious writing and identify common symbolism.

●●● Have a good understanding of human history, even before Exodus. Know about hidden, obscure sects both current and historical. Have detailed knowledge of symbolism and how different belief systems have evolved.

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krank said:

OK, så Signalanalys behöver justeras lite men annars verkar det som att ingen har några jätteproblem med de under Military?

Så kör vi nästa då:



Nog måste vi ha ett gäng akademiker som kan tala om för mig hur fel jag har här, va?

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krank said:

OK, så Signalanalys behöver justeras lite men annars verkar det som att ingen har några jätteproblem med de under Military?

Så kör vi nästa då:



Nog måste vi ha ett gäng akademiker som kan tala om för mig hur fel jag har här, va?

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Dilandau said:

Varför osynliggörandet av samhällsvetenskap/social sciences?

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Dilandau said:

Varför osynliggörandet av samhällsvetenskap/social sciences?

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Tant Ragnar said:

Jag vet inte om du varit inne på det tidigare, men kan ”expert” även utgöra grund för ett utökat kontaktnät inom området? Du blir inbjuden till konferenser, du har personlig kontakt med en framstående forskare inom området etc?

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krank said:

Har du några bra exempel på ledtrådar som skulle kunna avkodas med hjälp av en sådan expertis, och som inte kan falla under psykologi eller humaniora? Eller under respektive megakorporations-expertis?

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• Juridik (kunna saker om lagar, processer och rättsväsendet samt utföra sådant och se till att de man hittar också kan åka dit för det, eller att man kan slinka ur det själv).
• Följa pengarna och hitta fejk eller information i bokföring och finna penningtvätt (”Forensic Accounting”).
• Kriminologi (kunna saker om brottslighet, särskilt organiserad sådan).
• Granska lagfarter, tillståndsprövningar och stadsplanering för att etablera att det pågår ett fastighetsbedrägeri (en standardplott inom Noir, men täcks redan av en Bureaucracy-färdighet om den finns).

Leon said:

Basic - Advanced - Expert

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Vimes said:

Det här är väl superrimligt? Dels är det en mer självklar skala än en som innehåller "hobbyist", och dels fungerar termerna både in game och som rent regeltekniska termer.

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